tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post9080221765798344865..comments2023-10-01T11:04:12.429-05:00Comments on Sloopin - A South Loop Blog: Cermak Green Line Station to Open in 2014Sloopyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03513112726608015138noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-50381185402289682552011-11-14T12:57:43.139-06:002011-11-14T12:57:43.139-06:00Most people are not even aware of how much OFFICE ...Most people are not even aware of how much OFFICE Building development is being planned for Cermak/State/Wabash in terms of creating a small business district on the south end of the South Loop. The Cermak / 23rd stop is needed for this to happen - without it, it wont. With OFFICE development, brings thousands of workers to the area and with that, they will need places to go for breakfast, lunch and dinner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-80761591983147513982011-11-13T16:50:12.157-06:002011-11-13T16:50:12.157-06:00I love how noting that the new stop would be a 5-m...I love how noting that the new stop would be a 5-minute walk from another stop (and thus a huge waste of money) amounts to not reading the article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-73601162443776377802011-10-28T09:40:11.683-05:002011-10-28T09:40:11.683-05:00I think the main objective is to put a stop on 23r...I think the main objective is to put a stop on 23rd. This would help with attendee's at mccormick place aswell as what they have planned for motor row. Its all in the article did you bother to read it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-57469707413511496342011-10-27T23:23:03.489-05:002011-10-27T23:23:03.489-05:00A Cermak Green Line stop would be a 5 minute walk ...A Cermak Green Line stop would be a 5 minute walk from the Cermak Red Line stop. What's the point? Put it at 18th or don't make a stop at all. A stop at Cermak for the Green is a waste of money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-33270171355948812702011-10-21T11:30:13.821-05:002011-10-21T11:30:13.821-05:00What a predictable result for this survey. Of cour...What a predictable result for this survey. Of course most people want to have one closer to home... more people live closer to 18th than Cermack.<br /><br />Those with vision can forsee that the Cermack corridor will expand in the next 20 years and an el stop there would support that expansion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-91020645092680484252011-10-21T09:12:21.246-05:002011-10-21T09:12:21.246-05:00and more sarcastic trolls...and more sarcastic trolls...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-52913049704685242982011-10-20T16:14:56.873-05:002011-10-20T16:14:56.873-05:00We need more ice cream places!!We need more ice cream places!!wendigonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-1211483548545679722011-10-20T13:56:35.028-05:002011-10-20T13:56:35.028-05:00Saw this on the PDNA website
Current Vote from Pr...Saw this on the PDNA website<br /><br />Current Vote from Prairie District Neighborhood Alliance Green Line El Stop Community Survey<br /><br />I WOULD LIKE A NEW <br />GREEN LINE EL STOP AT?<br /> <br />18th Street<br />475 - 71% <br /> <br />Cermak Road<br />42- 6%<br /> <br />Both<br />152 - 22% <br /><br />Total Votes 669 100%Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-11477511566830679962011-10-20T10:05:53.379-05:002011-10-20T10:05:53.379-05:00BLAH BLAH BLAH-- Grant Park is still a mess from L...BLAH BLAH BLAH-- Grant Park is still a mess from Lollapalooza but no one seems to careJeff ( the other Jeff)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-88876232441871721962011-10-20T09:01:54.499-05:002011-10-20T09:01:54.499-05:00"I hope all this light rail talk is sarcasm....."I hope all this light rail talk is sarcasm... "<br /><br />Seriously... you people do realize that we have a bus on Michigan that goes all the way to River North, and plenty of CTA stations on the way? A light rail serving this area would be a complete waste.<br /><br />The new green line stop on the other hand is fantastic news, although I would have liked to see a station on 18th.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-24848303356142661262011-10-19T22:40:20.776-05:002011-10-19T22:40:20.776-05:00I hope all this light rail talk is sarcasm...I hope all this light rail talk is sarcasm...MarkChicagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776136299098724542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-84510619427895184002011-10-19T17:33:46.019-05:002011-10-19T17:33:46.019-05:00I don't see how this would happen, unless the ...I don't see how this would happen, unless the money comes from private donors. Lets not forget the city is broke and so is the CTA.tayiahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15726760068761320483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-44143447930503585792011-10-19T16:28:12.791-05:002011-10-19T16:28:12.791-05:00Love the light rail idea also. Lets get a petition...Love the light rail idea also. Lets get a petition going and talk to the alderman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-67263676894361258982011-10-19T12:54:15.654-05:002011-10-19T12:54:15.654-05:00I love the lightrail idea or trolley only for thos...I love the lightrail idea or trolley only for those who live in the area.. I think we need one that runs from Roosevelt down Wabash, turn left at Cermak back down Michigan. This would give those who live on the north side of the South Loop an opportunity to hop on, visit Motor Row - drink, etc.. head back home safely and vice-versa for those who live on the south end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-14582105882816624152011-10-19T11:59:22.232-05:002011-10-19T11:59:22.232-05:00Frankly, while any progress can be good, smart peo...Frankly, while any progress can be good, smart people understand that this project is already demonstrating failure in process, communication, leadership and vision, coupled with the probable ingredients of the 'old Chicago way', graft. <br /><br />25 Years ago, this could have been understandable; however, with the ability of anyone to study successful examples throughout the world in a few seconds on the internet, this provides a sad case of 'What If'? <br /><br />This type of failure is magnified by countless examples of government (IL, Cook, City) mis-management or disconnect, such as a failed IL legislature committing to spend $10BB+ on Tollway expansion, while creating and failing to address the solvency and changes needed for McCormick Place internally and with sound development planning principles. <br /><br />Instead of the narative being, 'do you want Cermak or 18th', it should be 'what is best for this area', taking into consideration needs for McCormick Place, residential growth, Motor Row opportunities, Central Station, Michigan Ave, Lake front access, and consideration for real estate value strengthening to promote further growth. <br /><br />The answer may be a combination of solutions that increase downtown access with evaluation for creating or improving commercial, cultural, residential anchors south of Roosevelt.<br /><br />The plan should look at the big picture city impact, yet creating a solid mutual vision and concrete plan that considers treats the South Loop as a smaller city, with added evaluation based on Profit, Loss, Value, etc. <br /><br />The major recent success in US and Europe has been more in light rail and street-car projects. A smaller less expensive station at Cermak coupled with unique light rail or street car circlulator around State/Wabash on one side, and Michigan/Indiana on the other would be wildly successful on many levels. (residential, swing peak access, commercial, anchor, in-fill, noise, taxi elimination, etc)<br /><br />Some great examples.<br /><br />http://www.lightrailnow.org/<br />http://www.smartwaysa.com/Documents/Presentations/Eastside%20Summit%20Streetcar%20Presentation%202-6-10.pdf <br />http://www.lightrailnow.org/features/f_lrt_2007-02a.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-45439715029081460792011-10-19T11:20:46.691-05:002011-10-19T11:20:46.691-05:00Who is living in a fantasy world? If you think the...Who is living in a fantasy world? If you think there aren't back door politics and behind the scene deals happening in every level of government in every city in every corner of the globe. You Sir are a fool. <br /><br />Tommy is a developer, he has done a lot of great things for the South Loop and Bridgeport.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-75248726188345975432011-10-19T10:20:05.361-05:002011-10-19T10:20:05.361-05:00To Anon 5:40 - Clearly you live in a fantasy world...To Anon 5:40 - Clearly you live in a fantasy world.<br />-----------------------------------<br />Anonymous Anon 5:40. What the hell are you talking about. Tommy is a developer, of course he has his own agenda. In this situation whats good for Tommy is good for most of us that live in the South Loop. So again what the hell are you talking about?<br />-----------------------------------<br /><br />I would suggest you do some research about some of the development, land acquisition and title process, and problems behind the development scene and get back to the class with your report.<br /><br />Hint: look not only who currently owns the property, but follow the cast of names involved in sale chain-of-custody, banks, title companies, real estate lawyers, as well as those who have been puppeted out publically as the figurehead 'owner' or 'developer' for completed and canceled projects. <br /><br />It's almost a methodical, yet perpetual fine tune symphony, quietly churning through a wash, spin, and dry cycle. <br /><br />Some names silently keep coming up during proceedings years later, even though they appeared nowhere during the Project Development approval and developer/partner & investor disclosure charade. <br /><br />Some already know that this goes much deeper than anyone can comprehend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-69974752798791853612011-10-19T09:57:03.538-05:002011-10-19T09:57:03.538-05:00A Friend.....
some people don't want to let f...A Friend.....<br /><br />some people don't want to let facts get in the way of what they believe to be true. Well Said!BRENDANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07100234894615609258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-32324748664239321362011-10-19T09:22:31.454-05:002011-10-19T09:22:31.454-05:00Thanks for the laugh Anon October 18, 2011 6:00 PM...Thanks for the laugh Anon October 18, 2011 6:00 PM & 8:40PM.<br /><br />It appears your standard for integrity and corruption is lower than most..."if they own the land - I hope they sell it to the city. Re DiPiazza - same thing - god bless them if they took the time to get connected and make money. "<br /><br />Where were you when Blago was assembling a jury?<br /><br />If you think they just happened upon this property, I have some land for you in Florida. So as you see it, yet another member of the Chicago Plan Commission (with inside information) "took a chance" and could wind up with a windfall of money above what the city should be paying ('graft tax')? So much for using taxes & TIFF funds for school, park, or other needs?A Friend of Ours or A Friend of Mine?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-20606675074073718612011-10-19T09:10:05.832-05:002011-10-19T09:10:05.832-05:00While an 18th St. stop would be more convenient fo...While an 18th St. stop would be more convenient for me to get into the Loop for work and like other commenters mentioned--potential for a Green and Orange line access, I think the value of having a Cermak stop is much greater. The access to McCormick place, a *hopefully* developed Motor Row is important to the areas development.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-69843485467448526232011-10-18T20:14:28.465-05:002011-10-18T20:14:28.465-05:00Anon 5:40. What the hell are you talking about. To...Anon 5:40. What the hell are you talking about. Tommy is a developer, of course he has his own agenda. In this situation whats good for Tommy is good for most of us that live in the South Loop. So again what the hell are you talking about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-13111280581647388192011-10-18T18:00:37.592-05:002011-10-18T18:00:37.592-05:00Re: who owns the land - they seem a lot more smart...Re: who owns the land - they seem a lot more smarter than all of us. I dont care about crappy homes in woodlawn.. if they own the land - I hope they sell it to the city. Re DiPiazza - same thing - god bless them if they took the time to get connected and make money. If they get in trouble for something - they took the chance. When you are in political positions - you will then understand how things get done. If they dont get anything going your constituents vote you out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-815993016974891032011-10-18T17:40:20.176-05:002011-10-18T17:40:20.176-05:00The city and Department of Planning & their cr...The city and Department of Planning & their cronney (Bennet Haller) are a bunch of liars. They host these faux community meetings like 2-3 years ago, make promises about evaluation and more meetings with the community, and they are never to be heard from again. <br /><br />Where did you LEMMINGS think it was going to be built? Take a look at land records where the station is to be built, and think about it you 'Chumbolones'. One one side of Cermak is property that was (and could still silently be) owned by 'a friend our ourzzzz' Tommy Dipiazza. <br /><br />'An, ohn de otter side a de street', along the tracks we have none other than our friends at the Woodlawn Community Development Corp of 6040 S HARPER AVE <br />CHICAGO, IL 60637. <br /><br />For those of you that need a history lesson of Chicago development about our friends at Woodlawn here is a sample http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-muckrakers/2010/09/1-3-million-a-politically-connected-landord-problem-buildings-and-a-correction/<br /><br />Now, we really can't tell if the 18th or the Cermak stop would have been the best location, because there was never a chance for a serious evaluation. <br /><br />Even better, is this quite possibly yet another of 1,001 examples on how to steal taxpayer funds and how to make it look legal? Why would the city wait suspiciously longer, AFTER tearing down IKES homes with FEDERAL TARP FUNDS, to purchase land needed to build said Cermak station, when by tearing down the public housing, the land price value could have just doubled or trippled in market value? If this is the case, simply BRILLIANT (golf clap)!A Friend of Ours or A Friend of Mine?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-90933850369552663302011-10-18T16:43:02.517-05:002011-10-18T16:43:02.517-05:00Anon 10-18 thanks for the additional info. This st...Anon 10-18 thanks for the additional info. This station was built in 1892 one of the original!<br />And Now City wants to reopen it in a grand style. Only a block away, we resored the first White Castle" built in 1930.<br /><br />This is great news. Hopefully it will encourage property owners in Music Row to restore their buildings to the old glory.Chef Lucianonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-77974334119494785492011-10-18T14:49:40.166-05:002011-10-18T14:49:40.166-05:00There was a Cermak stop before - it looks like par...There was a Cermak stop before - it looks like parts of it ended up over the street because of Cermak getting widened at some point. <a href="http://www.chicago-l.org/stations/cermak.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicago-l.org/stations/cermak.html</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com