tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post8446478988039706875..comments2023-10-01T11:04:12.429-05:00Comments on Sloopin - A South Loop Blog: Roosevelt Collection Update and the Roosevelt Road ViaductSloopyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03513112726608015138noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-60918173367074544082012-11-30T16:49:43.712-06:002012-11-30T16:49:43.712-06:00Agreed on the pedestrian environment of SouthGate....Agreed on the pedestrian environment of SouthGate. But then again, that whole stretch of Roosevelt leaves a lot to be desired for people on foot. I avoid that area as much as possible, be it on car, bike, or foot. It's a clusterf*ck. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-38125380460950566622012-11-30T16:06:44.393-06:002012-11-30T16:06:44.393-06:00Avoid SouthGate as much as possible because I can&...Avoid SouthGate as much as possible because I can't even get from DSW to Starbucks, let alone try to get from Whole Foods to PetSmart. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-79953940873590041842012-11-27T10:40:57.171-06:002012-11-27T10:40:57.171-06:00Is anyone else annoyed with how UN-pedestrian frie...Is anyone else annoyed with how UN-pedestrian friendly SouthGate is? Visiting Whole Foods and PetSmart I have to walk through the car entrance in order to get to the sidewalks to head south/east. I mean really...you're in downtown Chicago...could you not have at least considered the fact that not all the shoppers would be coming by car. I really hope this isn't a growing trend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-32512243690347764692012-11-24T11:33:38.093-06:002012-11-24T11:33:38.093-06:00The arrow is pointing up for the South Loop for a ...The arrow is pointing up for the South Loop for a number of reasons, but the Roosevelt Road corridor is not one of them. The elevated/isolated design presents serious challenges. Roosevelt Collection is a nice asset that will lease up over time, and as long as Southgate has the Whole Foods they will be okay. Other properties west of the River on this car-dominated stretch will not will not fare as well - it's already choked with traffic and yet it's totally underdeveloped. Big box stores and huge surface lots will continue to be on the downtrend. East of the River is walkable, with access to the L. If new development west of the River can bring some pedestrian-friendly elements and public amenities - parks, plazas, public transportation, etc. - then it has a chance at attracting tenants. Keep an eye on the Bond Companies development on Canal. If designed well, that deal could (combined with Southgate) anchor a cluster of development/value creation. May they succeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-20654693185567770232012-11-12T05:55:37.283-06:002012-11-12T05:55:37.283-06:00I walk through the property in question regularly ...I walk through the property in question regularly and my, admittedly selfish, fantasy for the lot is that it would be converted into an urban version of Upstate New York's Storm King - a 'Scuplture Garden', yes, but curated and dynamic...not just a few big modern sculptures plopped down in a plaza...that may be a little pie-in-the-sky...if it gets developed residentially I pray there would be some horizontal contiunity with the townhouses on State Street and leave a significant public access to the river that would link up with Ping Tom park in Chinatown. This City has a beautiful public Lakeshore. It would be nice to see a commensurate embrace of the RiverD.Dante.Dealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02251475187496525766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-64665199210361452892012-11-09T17:48:14.268-06:002012-11-09T17:48:14.268-06:00I hear the british school are coming?I hear the british school are coming?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-38371004125525134352012-11-09T15:51:29.763-06:002012-11-09T15:51:29.763-06:00I think a HUGE factor in this will be the plot to ...I think a HUGE factor in this will be the plot to the south of Roosevelt Collection. That's segregated countless ways from any neighborhood, so will that continue to stay segregated and become big-box land (Walmart anyone?) or will it develop into it's own neighborhood? I was in Austin earlier this year, and it's a great city with perfectly sized developments. They had roads with street parking but 1 lane in each direction, yet 8, 10, 15 story buildings on either side. There was retail in the bottom, but not Bath and Body Works and Gaps, more local stuff, including a multiplex, but not megaplex. If a good neighborhood idea like what's planned for the South Works U.S. Steel site gets built here, that could really help Roosevelt form a positive identity.Brianbobcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17762299406023279109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-40066699742769261832012-11-09T10:52:45.572-06:002012-11-09T10:52:45.572-06:00Whenever I'm around that stretch of Roosevelt ...Whenever I'm around that stretch of Roosevelt road, all I can think is, "The suburbs are closer than you think." It's a bunch of big boxes without any city soul whatsoever. Time to think creatively, city folks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-18790779504731300022012-11-09T10:46:22.356-06:002012-11-09T10:46:22.356-06:00It would be nice to see some continuity in future ...It would be nice to see some continuity in future developments. If you look at city like Minneapolis and how all of the downtown buildings are connceted by skyways, something along those lines would be a great feature.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11832073721200607542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-67548711475092512832012-11-09T10:10:44.356-06:002012-11-09T10:10:44.356-06:00I agree. I wish there was more planning involved b...I agree. I wish there was more planning involved by the city than to have these tract be developed as completely independent projects. Would love to see some continuity. Would love to see some more traffic cross Roosevelt Road (south bound).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-81640166335813285892012-11-09T10:04:23.837-06:002012-11-09T10:04:23.837-06:00Seems like a good plan to me.Seems like a good plan to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1167519580792566980.post-76026529700209535472012-11-09T09:49:22.796-06:002012-11-09T09:49:22.796-06:00Fully agree. The key to the South Loop is keeping ...Fully agree. The key to the South Loop is keeping the neighborhood feel throughout, but having the big box types and office buildings as bookends Roosevelt Road and future Cermak/State area. Printer's Row, Dearborn Park I,II, Museum Campus, Prairie District, Motor Row all have the neighborhood vibe with small modern looking retail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com